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Offline Nurse Julie

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Re: CB550 refurb
« Reply #15 on: August 28, 2024, 09:42:24 PM »
Here is the link to Bryans tips.

.https://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,23835.0.html
Thanks Ted! I have a lot to do before I get to that stage but I may have a go. I have read elsewhere about making sure the offset is the same; is there any info that also explains that?
No offset on the wheels of these old Hondas
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Offline Mike_Berkshire

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Re: CB550 refurb
« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2024, 09:46:36 PM »
Perfect, thanks Julie

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Re: CB550 refurb
« Reply #17 on: August 29, 2024, 09:02:20 AM »
Doing your own wheel building must be very rewarding that's a given. I've read with admiration here those members who have done it including overcoming issues like  having been sent the wrong spokes etc. I am quite risk averse plus a serial overthinker especially in old age.
As I wanted my Hubs powder coating, anodised rims and to avoid any issues with the SS spokes I realised that as I was sourcing everything from CWC the actual labour charge for building the rims is a relatively small component.

I did not want to risk damage when fitting the tapes and tyres so had CWC do the lot. Twenty years ago I would have done them myself that's for sure. I look forwards to reading your build progress.
I believe one of the reasons we tinker with these old Honda's is the problems we face in learning to overcome obstacles picking up new skills in the process. That said we each have individual red lines.

Recently at the ripe young age of 76 earth years I leant how to fit a Helicoil for the first time as a carb bowl thread had stripped. My second Helicoil was visibly better than my first - so much so that I ended up removing the first attempt making it as good as the second one.


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Offline Johnny4428

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Re: CB550 refurb
« Reply #18 on: August 31, 2024, 11:58:10 AM »
Never really thought about the original finish on these hubs before but looks like the outer flanges were lacquered but not the centres?
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Re: CB550 refurb
« Reply #19 on: August 31, 2024, 02:12:00 PM »
I’m firmly of the belief that the hubs were satin polished and lacquered. Other opinions may differ.


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Re: CB550 refurb
« Reply #20 on: August 31, 2024, 02:15:10 PM »
Go look at Allan Millard’s wheel building video on his you tube, it’s on his Z900 build. Rather than lacing them vertically he does them flat in the vice on the bikes rear spindle. I copied him and found it much easier and you don’t need any special kit etc……. Worth a look, helped me immensely and I’ve done 4 sets now. I had em checked at a vintage bike shop in Chard and he said he couldn’t have done them any better so well chuffed!

Worth a look Johnny


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Re: CB550 refurb
« Reply #21 on: August 31, 2024, 02:16:10 PM »
https://youtu.be/pW2LpGkmPJc?si=Nw7I3pUe8C6zBKE5


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Offline Johnny4428

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Re: CB550 refurb
« Reply #22 on: August 31, 2024, 05:00:51 PM »
Interesting Roo to see how the great Millyard does his wheels. I’m actually quite happy with the building process but can definitely take a tip or two there. Previous wheels I have done I have just buffed the hubs with a scotchbrite mop to leave a nice satin shine but just wondered if there’s anything to be gained by applying lacquer?
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Re: CB550 refurb
« Reply #23 on: August 31, 2024, 09:53:53 PM »
Only the fact that  if  it chips or comes away, you’ll have to do some cunning masking to redo it if the wheels built. I part polished mine, that Kanuba wax is easier to apply than lacquer was my thought train when doing that job.


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Re: CB550 refurb
« Reply #24 on: August 31, 2024, 09:54:47 PM »
I not did it his way as it required no special tools or set up and could do it with what I had in the shed. It turned out to be super simple


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Re: CB550 refurb
« Reply #25 on: August 31, 2024, 10:28:09 PM »
My truing jig was the axle and spacer at an angle in the vice with a long screwdriver held against the jaws

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Re: CB550 refurb
« Reply #26 on: September 01, 2024, 01:04:59 PM »
Mines a modified balance stand. My thoughts Roo regarding damage to hub flanges, I will just do my usual and clean and buff! My truing stand is definitely over engineered compared to yours Bryan! 🤣
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Re: CB550 refurb
« Reply #27 on: September 01, 2024, 01:40:04 PM »
I was stuck for space as ever when I did mine but if you think your jig is advanced Johnny, check out the contraption I concocted

Copper pipe screwed to the bench with a machine set square cable tied to it.

It’s all I could muster but worked a charm


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2002 VFR800 VTEC (The Beloved)
1977 CB400F (the last money pit!)
1998 Ducati 748\853 conversion(sold :()
1980 ish CB750KZ in a billion bits (need to get rid, anybody want one?))

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« Reply #28 on: September 01, 2024, 01:40:33 PM »



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Re: CB550 refurb
« Reply #29 on: September 01, 2024, 03:26:16 PM »
I do love it when Mr Heath and Robinson pay a visit! 🤣🤣
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1973 Honda CB750K3
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